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February 12, 2007

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Ruth

Here's to late nights at Waffle House.

Matt

Bravo!

Well said, John, well said.

It's amazing how the more you think about almost anything the more it always leads back to one place. How could it not, ey?

Meg

John Coleman, I was reading VELVET ELVIS by Rob Bell and he mentioned that the biggest problem with the son who stayed home was that he had available ALL of the things that the prodigal son was given, but that he was too caught up in what he had to do to deserve those things in the future to be able to enjoy those things... since that's all one sentence, I'm not sure it made sense. Maybe read it a couple of times... haha

Anyway, as usual I'm provoked thoughtfully by what you have to say. I hope that all is well!

James Chang

Wow, John, that was a wonderful post. I've been reading S.K. lately too. There is an interesting dialectic at work here too, the dialectic between love and freedom. Kierkegaard, along with Karl Barth, had the idea that we as sinners are under the bondage of sin and do not enjoy perfect freedom, unlike God, whose freedom is reflected in and evidenced by his love towards the human race. It is precisely because the "father" is free that he is able to dispense with the restrictive notion of "justice," or, the "Law," in Hebrew theology. This is the heart of the Gospel. The Law is valid, but only as a pointer to something greater.

Thank you for posting this!

John

Matt,

Thanks! It was partially your comment on the previous post that inspired me to extend the analysis.

Meg,

That sounds like a great take on yet another dimension of the parable. Sometimes thinking that we are earning something (when we are not) leaves us but disillusioned and under the illusion that we have more power and less grace than we actually have.

James,

Awesome points. It is God's ultimate freedom that allows him to elevate the greatest result of freedom, love.

Beth

I like the new picture!

I think this is the best post on Agape love you have done, and I love the way you used the Prodigal son to run a thread through the last two.

Beautiful.

L

I liked this very much. One thing that I just can't resolve about this Agape Love thing:

It takes an extremely strong character to love someone like this. Building this strength of character is definitely a lifelong journey, which I understand. However, as you mention here, our society has created barriers to this development by reinforcing principles of personal justice and fairness. Hence, many people never accomplish the ability to love someone unconditionally and selflessly. Moreover, the pain one endures when they love someone unconditionally but that love is not returned is enough to discourage a person for a lifetime.

In the Prodigal Son, does the father ever get discouraged? He has given so much to his son. What feeds his Agape love when his son does not love him back?

John

L,

Thank you for the observation. I think this is one of the hardest things I struggle with -- the notion that love exercises its demands even in the absence of reciprocity. I think it's almost impossible to get to the point of perfect love (as I noted, I'm beginning to think love a more complex thing than I initially envisioned -- something like the perfection and proper ordering of all the other virtues). But it is precisely the need for a strong individual character in the face of pain and social barriers that makes the instances of true love we observe all the more impactful (I wrote about my memories of closeness to such instances, or snapshots, at http://johncoleman.typepad.com/ex_nihilo/2006/09/agape_love_part.html).

Here's my two cents. I'd love to hear more of your thoughts. In a way, our social value systems have, I think, erected walls to the observance of real love. We place an emphasis (sometimes justified) on moderation and individualism. Individualism leads us to care more about ourselves (hence, justice and fairness) than about the connections between us and the virtue those can bring. In seeking to avoid pain, we become risk averse and seek moderation. Even if shying away from extremes costs us the purest joys in life, it saves us the most excruciating of pains; and in avoiding those pains we learn to live our lives flat, so to speak. Our emotions never ride too high or too low because we never expose ourselves to the uncertainty of dependency and love.

But I am learning, personally, that that flatness simply leads me to a deeper kind of discomfort and discontent -- something Walker Percy referred to asa malaise. And as I learn to let go and expose myself a little more, the upside (joy, truer love, chance) is worth the risk.

It also seems that life is a little too short and fickle to focus too much on fairness. Above, the father knew that it was unfair to himself to give all he had worked so hard for to an ungrateful son. But he also knew that his love for the son, unconditional, was far more important than any material posession he had. It wasn't fair for the son to reject him. It wasn't fair for the son to take his things. But in light of the ultimate choice -- between demanding obedience and giving the opportunity for totally free and voluntary love -- the father knew that nothing could be greater or more thrilling than the latter.

Like I said, I'm writing these posts to figure these things out myself (translation: I have no idea what I'm talking about;)), but those are my initial thoughts.

I think individualism is exactly the problem. We get so isolated that we're paralyzed we lock ourselves in rooms and convince ourselves that stepping out is more frightening than standing inside alone.

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